José Antonio Fernandes Martins completou 89 anos na semana ada, e o empresário que é sinônimo de relações institucionais da indústria da Serra está em plena atividade. Após mais de dois anos de pandemia, voltou a viajar para São Paulo e Brasília, onde trabalha na articulação das demandas do setor de mobilidade e da área da saúde.

Desde que deixou de atuar dentro da Marcopolo há três anos, Martins tem se dedicado mais ao negócio comandado pela família, a R2 IBF, que atua no segmento de medicina nuclear, e vai abrir duas novas fábricas no país.

Vice-presidente da Federação das Indústrias do Estado de São Paulo e presidente do Sindicato Interestadual da Indústria de Materiais e Equipamentos Ferroviários e Rodoviários (Simefre), Martins pretende voltar a articular um dos projetos que mais o projetou na história recente da fabricante de ônibus caxiense: o projeto dos ônibus escolares.

A seguir, além destas frentes, Martins destaca também outros de seus investimentos, como em quadros e vinhos, além de comentar sobre o que vislumbra no cenário macroeconômico para o perfil industrial regional. Confira a entrevista:

Como está a rotina de trabalho aos 89 anos?

Em março de 2019, encerrei minhas atividades na Marcopolo. Mas há 10 anos eu já tinha começado a R2 IBF de medicina nuclear. Compramos um cíclotron, equipamento que fabrica o fármaco FDG 18, que é o produto que tu injetas no sistema linfático para poder fazer o exame PET Scan, uma tomografia que, para ter a imagem, precisa dessa espécie de contraste, só que é nuclear. Começamos com esse negócio em Porto Alegre. Depois, médicos de São José do Rio Preto (interior de São Paulo) queriam fazer uma empresa semelhante e fizemos uma parceria. Fizemos após uma fábrica no Rio de Janeiro. E aí surgiu uma empresa em Curitiba que queria vender e nós compramos. Com tudo isso, montamos uma holding, em que ficamos com 60%. Estamos com quatro fábricas no país. Nós já compramos o terreno, e estamos em fase de construção de uma nova unidade em Vitória do Santo Antão  (em Pernambuco), perto de Recife. Deve ficar pronta em um ano. Neste meio tempo, aqui no Rio Grande do Sul, a PUC também tinha um cíclotron no Instituto do Cérebro para pesquisa e eles nos procuraram porque queriam entrar no mercado. Fizemos uma negociação para, por 10 anos, representar o InsCer (Instituto do Cérebro), nós fazemos a venda de todo o material. Aí nós vamos levar nosso equipamento de Porto Alegre para o Nordeste. E vamos transformar a fábrica gaúcha para atuar com outros fármacos. E, paralelamente, estamos com terreno comprado em Mogi das Cruzes (também no interior de São Paulo) para uma nova fábrica. Vamos ficar com seis unidades.

O mercado de medicina nuclear está demandando muito?

Estamos fabricando 8,3 mil doses por mês. E de um outro fármaco específico para próstata são em torno de 400. No ano ado, o número de processos cancerígenos no Brasil atingiu em torno de 650 mil casos. Segundo especialistas, 70% dos doentes morrem por não terem um diagnóstico precoce, porque ele é caro e o SUS paga estes tipos de exames apenas para três tipos de cânceres. Nós queremos trabalhar para colocar no SUS todos os processos cancerígenos e aí, talvez, possamos até reduzir o preço. 

Como foi mudar do setor de ônibus para o de saúde?

Eu, na realidade, sou um médico frustrado. Eu sempre quis ser médico, mas me encontrei com um amigo que estava no primeiro ano de Medicina no necrotério, que era do lado da escola de Engenharia, e ele disse assim: “Tu queres fazer vestibular para Medicina? Vamos ali no necrotério que vou te mostrar anatomia.” Eu fui lá e encontrei cabeça para um lado, braço para outro... Saí tão apavorado que atravessei a rua e me matriculei na Engenharia. Mas eu sempre tive essa tendência para a saúde.

Quem são os principais compradores, tem hospitais públicos também?

Para o governo vendemos pouco. Aqui no Rio Grande do Sul o único hospital público é o Clínicas. O resto é tudo hospital privado. Nós temos o Albert Einstein, o Sírio-Libanês, o Camargo (Câncer Center, de São Paulo). As grandes corporações são os nossos maiores clientes.

Como o homem das relações institucionais de Caxias ou esses últimos dois anos de pandemia?

Há dois anos que eu não estava indo mais para lugar nenhum. Foi tudo na base do vídeo. A gente sente falta. Agora eu já voltei a viajar. Voltei esta semana de São Paulo. Fui reeleito vice-presidente da Fiesp. Estou no cargo há 16 anos. Nós temos reuniões lá uma semana sim outra não. E agora começou em Brasília também esse movimento para flexibilizar o monopólio do governo na parte dos fármacos nucleares. 

O senhor ainda é acionista da Marcopolo e istra outros investimentos, como quadros e vinhos...

Eu fiquei ações preferenciais da Marcopolo. Tu só esperas que o resultado seja bom. Eu tenho também as obras de arte. Acho que a minha pinacoteca é uma das maiores do Estado. Tenho um investimento grande em esculturas, e também em miniaturas. Tenho coleção de relógios, de objetos de viagens. Mas eu só compro, não vendo nada. O vinho eu sou um estudioso. O mais antigo que tenho é um exemplar de 1950 de Bordeaux. Eu tenho um do Barons de Rothschild de 1986.

E quando vai abrir?

Não sei, mas uma hora tem que tomar. Eu também produzi vinhos com a Vinícola Luiz Argenta. Fiz três safras. São de altíssima qualidade. É para dar de presente. É um vinho complicado de se fazer na nossa região que, por conta da insolação, vai ter grãos maduros e outros não. Eu fiz, como o Château Petrus (também de Bordeaux), que em cada cacho separa grãos de uvas maduras das que não estão boas. E eu fiz isso aqui e o vinho se torna caro porque quase metade da safra vai fora. Mas fica um vinho que é um negócio! Todo mundo quer comprar, mas eu digo que não dá para vender.

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